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Or thane:I absolutely hate this, not Liam Knight as i'd be happy with him here, what i hate is that Burgess wasn't interested in the first place.He's knows him, has played with him, would have known he was available but wasn't interested, now he's playing really well Burgess is suddenly interested in poaching him. My confidence in Burgess has disintegrated very quickly, and he seems deluded and panicky with things he's doing. If we sign Him we should get rid of Musgrove and keep Vaughan. Byrne, Knight, Vaughan, Harrison, Yates, Philbin & Wood looks pretty solid, Crowther as back up possibly as well. Dan Russell i had a good feeling about, then saw him play and oh dear, not his fault but he's more championship level. We need 2 new good props minimum, and Either Play leyland or let him go. And just move on from Russell, and hopefully Lindop and Wrench both stay fit and keep developing. I like king, nothing fancy but is a workhorse centre and makes more yards and gets us on the front foot more than our props at times. And only costing 50k on the cap is a BIG plus, but the fact we haven't re-signed him already suggests he's on his way out. To be fair on Burgess didn't Knight only become available mid season when we had no quota spots left? Whether we should have filled that last spot with Russell is obviously the question we all know the answer to, its left our hands tied - maybe we would have been in a better position to bring Amone in if we had that flexibility of a free spot. Bringing in Russell certainly seems panic stations after losing Bateman & Nicholson, keeping our powder dry would have seemed the better option. King at £50k on the cap works well for his current contract, but I'm sure his next deal will be lower so the benefit is reduced, maybe having Walker / Ashton on £100k cap or Currie on £50k cap may work just as well. I'd keep King, but his salary has to be right and as you say Lindop should be considered first choice centre next year on his preferred side. Wrench I think at this stage can only be considered a back up given his injury issues of the past two years. |
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Or thane:I absolutely hate this, not Liam Knight as i'd be happy with him here, what i hate is that Burgess wasn't interested in the first place.He's knows him, has played with him, would have known he was available but wasn't interested, now he's playing really well Burgess is suddenly interested in poaching him. My confidence in Burgess has disintegrated very quickly, and he seems deluded and panicky with things he's doing. If we sign Him we should get rid of Musgrove and keep Vaughan. Byrne, Knight, Vaughan, Harrison, Yates, Philbin & Wood looks pretty solid, Crowther as back up possibly as well. Dan Russell i had a good feeling about, then saw him play and oh dear, not his fault but he's more championship level. We need 2 new good props minimum, and Either Play leyland or let him go. And just move on from Russell, and hopefully Lindop and Wrench both stay fit and keep developing. I like king, nothing fancy but is a workhorse centre and makes more yards and gets us on the front foot more than our props at times. And only costing 50k on the cap is a BIG plus, but the fact we haven't re-signed him already suggests he's on his way out. To be fair on Burgess didn't Knight only become available mid season when we had no quota spots left? Whether we should have filled that last spot with Russell is obviously the question we all know the answer to, its left our hands tied - maybe we would have been in a better position to bring Amone in if we had that flexibility of a free spot. Bringing in Russell certainly seems panic stations after losing Bateman & Nicholson, keeping our powder dry would have seemed the better option. King at £50k on the cap works well for his current contract, but I'm sure his next deal will be lower so the benefit is reduced, maybe having Walker / Ashton on £100k cap or Currie on £50k cap may work just as well. I'd keep King, but his salary has to be right and as you say Lindop should be considered first choice centre next year on his preferred side. Wrench I think at this stage can only be considered a back up given his injury issues of the past two years. | |
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What’s the issue, if anything it puts a hard deadline on him leaving a legacy. If he wants to win anything, it’s in the next 18 months. The following two years will be him as an assistant, which won’t suit his ego, so he will want to leave here a winner and force his reputation on the NRL.
Would you rather an open ended Steve Price style contract, where a cup run and play offs seems enough, or do you want a time bound deal with a strict deadline to deliver of get out.
We now have time to find the right replacement.
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He absolutely should leave at the end of this season and we should be trying to get Gardiner now before Saints do. Being announced a couple of weeks before Wembley seems very poor IMO.
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| BarbedWire2:
What’s the issue, if anything it puts a hard deadline on him leaving a legacy. If he wants to win anything, it’s in the next 18 months. The following two years will be him as an assistant, which won’t suit his ego, so he will want to leave here a winner and force his reputation on the NRL.
Would you rather an open ended Steve Price style contract, where a cup run and play offs seems enough, or do you want a time bound deal with a strict deadline to deliver of get out.
We now have time to find the right replacement.
Understand your point but there is no strict deadline to deliver at all. He can just run out his contract without fear of the sack. | | |
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He absolutely should leave at the end of this season and we should be trying to get Gardiner now before Saints do. Being announced a couple of weeks before Wembley seems very poor IMO.
The timing suits nobody other than Sam Burgess. | | | |
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Well, go and win it is the instruction. That will be the only way to stave off the mob.
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